I still remember that on the early days of the MSN Spaces, if you wanted to fully experience your Space, you had to use IE6…
Nowadays, Microsoft developers are putting a lot of effort into making their products and webpages more standards compliant. Across the blogosphere, there are many posts about this. Molly H. wrote:
Many readers here also follow the IEBlog (a good practice for contemporary Web developers and designers). Expect significant repairs to most existing bugs, implementation of long-awaited CSS features such as fixed positioning, child selectors, and attribute selectors. Alpha transparency in PNGs? Yes! The XML declaration will now be available without disturbing the DOCTYPE switch, and object handling will be improved with proper fallback.
R. Scoble announced:
Thomas Hawk broke the story this afternoon that Live.com now supports Firefox, but Sanaz Ahari, PM on the Live.com team just told me the news officially minutes ago. She says there’s a minor CSS bug in the search results which will be fixed soon too.
Then again, while I was updating my Space profile in Firefox, I noticed that my contact card didn’t show either my email or my phone numbers… so I opened the page in Internet Explorer, signed in with my Passport account, and was surprised to see that IE was showing 3 JavaScript errors… First one was on line 3, character 18095. As you can see below, my picture and/or contact card isn’t showing:
I checked on Firefox (using the JavaScript Console) to check out if there were JavaScript errors, and there were none. Though the Console did show a lot of CSS errors (‘dropped declarations’). I also decided to check my Space’s source for w3c compliance. There were 424 errors.
Here is a screenshot of the page in Firefox:
As a note, I’m using the Flyakite mod for Windows… it shouldn’t have any effect on how pages are rendered in IE, but who knows…
Anyhow, I took the liberty of writing to the IEBlog staff, since trying to locate someone to talk to on MSN Spaces was a bit difficult.
Here’s what I sent them:
Hello IE developers. I’m writing to you since I couldn’t find an easy way to report an error on the MSN Spaces site.
Since I’m from Mexico, my Space is displayed in spanish… unfortunately the templates for spanish language provoque javascript errors… and don’t validate (they are also displayed in quirks mode).
In IE6 this means that some functions aren’t displayed, like my contact card. Ironically, Firefox is able to show the contact card (but doesn’t show more info, like the email and phone).
I just thought you should know. For a screenshot of the errors and a comparison, visit rolandog.com.
I’m thinking it’s the language templates they have, but it really is only up to them to really find out what is going on.


Mi inglés es demasiado malo para expresarme en él, lo siento.
Primero, gracias por tan gentil comentario en mi blog.
Segundo. Yo tengo muchos problemas para acceder a msn spaces, cada que intento abrir una web de esas, firefox me marca error y se me cierran las ventanas. ¿es solo mío el problema?
Saludos
Hola Lula… no te apures por el mal inglich, que yo precisamente para no sentirme oxidado, me dedico un poco a ‘bloggear’…
Y, pues para nada… siempre he pensado que la cortesía y caballerosidad siempre causan buenas impresiones en las damas…
jajaja
Y acerca de lo de msn spaces, depende de la versión de Firefox que tengas… la más reciente creo que es 1.5.0.1, te sugiero que lo actualices. La otra es que quizás sea un error de Firefox en la plataforma que usas (es Windows XP? ME? 2000? 98?)
De hecho pronto haré un ‘write-up’ de las mejores extensiones para Firefox, para que todos puedan tener la mejor de las experiencias.
Pero bueno, si quieres escríbeme a mi correo rolandog@gmail.com… y a lo mejor te puedo ayudar.
Bueno, Lula… Muchas gracias por visitar, y por comentar. Nos estaremos ‘leyendo’ pronto
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MSN Spaces es la comida del diablo.
jeje… no pero no sirve para nada, es un mugrero.
Y ya se arreglo el problema de las ligas…. Gracias.
My english isn’t that good either, however, I think I can make myself understood, anyway. And I´m writing this down in english to avoid it getting rust.
Microsoft has been proven to be defective almost in any feature they make. V.G. IE is way inferior to firefox or even windows, which is a O. S. rather poorly conceived, is extremely inferior to those like Linux or Unix.
Not to mention that its new product, MSN is an invitation-only one.
By the way, thanks for dropping by my blog. Hope it’s not the last time.
See you
Estoy de acuerdo contigo ‘Mando… y q bueno que arreglaste tus ligas… que el pelo se despeinaba… jajajaja ahh que chistoso soy vdd?
Thanks for stopping by, Mirabai. Indeed, the new version of MSN is invite-only and I guess they’re just trying the new trend in marketing… this trend was somehow already told in a South Park Episode
I think maybe Gmail is guilty of making this a fast way of getting users… also Newsvine was, for a time, an invite-only club.
Oh, I forgot to say I will certainly be visiting your blog… Mirabai.
Hola que tal!? bueno recien entro a esta pagina sobre comentarios que me resultaron de mi agrado, ya que por lo que lei no soy el unico es tener problemas con el msn spaces.
pasare a comentarle todos los problemas que me ha causado:
a lo primero andaba todo fenomenal, despues con la actualizacion del msn spaces todo cambio, primero las estrellitas de los blogs de mis amigos en el msn no se veian, despues no mostraba mi space, internet explorer me denegaba el acceso, el firefox me habre mi space pero no puedo ver las fotos, y bueno opte por cambiarme de pais en las opciones de hotmail y lo que ocurrio es que ahora en el msn puedo ver las estrellitas de mis contactos como mi propio space en miniatura, pero los problemas tanto para el explorer como el firefox sigan sin cambios…. alguien sabe que se podria llegar a hacer? esto la verdad me tiene mas que cansado!.
les comento que mi computadora tiene el spybot con la habilitacion del teatimer y sd helper!,mas el nod32 antivirus, el active pop pup killer(siempre desactivado porque si no es imposible surfear por la net),y por ultimo el firewall de windows xp.
si pueden ayudarme se los agradeceria!.
desde ya muchas gracias
Jajaja, vaya JP… veo que tienes muchos antiviruses, antipopups y antispywares… yo… adivina cuantos uso?
NINGUNO!
Solo uso Firefox… pero pues, bastante ‘customized’, de hecho tengo que hacer un post con las extensiones que ando usando, que de veras que les pueden servir a más de uno.
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Hola Argelis… bienvenida